By Neda Arabshahi
Clean Air-Cool Planet
Climate Policy Fellow
Friday, July 30, 2009 Interview with Caleb Pungowiyi.
Mr. Pungowiyi is a spokesperson and advocate for Native peoples of Alaska, he is a Yup’ik Eskimo who was born and raised on Alaska’s St. Lawrence Island.
Please tell me about your experience with climate change and what changes you have seen in the lives of native people in Alaska?
Mr. Pungowiyi: Each person and community is affected in different ways; not everyone is thinking about “climate change.” One has to look long-term to connect the different changes that have occurred. This includes the changes that have occurred in a person’s own life and the physical changes that he sees around him, especially changes in the ice conditions.
Alaskan natives live primarily in a marine environment and depend on the associated species. Marine mammals are essential to daily life. The ice is used for harvesting food. The changes in ice and melting of ice have impacted the ability to harvest and the length of the harvesting season. The ice breaks faster and this definitely impacts the harvest.
What are the reactions or responses of the communities to these changes?
Mr. Pungowiyi: People are victims or slaves to the conditions that they have to work with.
Although as human beings we are quite adaptable to changes around us, the real challenge is how the species that serve as food sources will be impacted. Currently we do not know how these species will be impacted on a lifecycle basis. This is key; we need to better understand how salmon, polar bears, seals, whales, etc. will be impacted over their lifetime by the changes happening in the land. They cannot adapt as quickly as human beings and therefore will be in trouble.
This is especially true because arctic animals are highly specialized to live in certain conditions. When these climatic changes occur at the current pace, these very specialized animals cannot adapt quickly enough. Even if by human standards the changes occur over 20 or 50 years, enough time to relocate a village or build different types of homes, the rate of change may be too fast for animals to survive. For this reason, we don’t know the long-term impact of climate change on the animal species. This will be the big question as we try to measure the impacts. There will be results that we didn’t anticipate. Some will be good and some will be bad.
What can the Alaskan government do about this situation?
Mr. Pungowiyi: The government cannot do a whole lot to prevent climate change from impacting the land in Alaska; instead they will try to mitigate the impacts.
The state will not be able to respond to hunger or lack of food resources.
Food security will be a big issue, this is because no amount of food stamps or public assistance will replace caribou, fish, or whale — this will cause some hardship. In today’s America people will not starve to death. There will be some way to help people who might suffer by providing them with American food, rather than native food.
The biggest impact will be energy costs — gasoline and heating fuel for electricity and transportation. These costs are astounding and will impact the people that go fishing, hunting, etc. These increasing costs will restrict normal activities because people rely on fuel for transport to reach the hunting and fishing spots.
The state will not step in to help with these things. They will step in when something is considered a disaster — but this must be declared and then they must provide economic assistance. This past winter along the Yukon it was a tough winter and a poor fishing season. There was a shortage in food from traditional sources. This is not considered a disaster because the state thinks people could use other resources such as American food, meaning chicken, cows, etc.
Wouldn’t that sacrifice the culture?
Mr. Pungowiyi: Cultures change and this culture has been changing — some grandchildren don’t want to eat native food. Language changes because of television and people not speaking their native language at home.
How do you feel about that?
Mr. Pungowiyi: In a perfect world I’d like to see culture, language, food, games, dancing, etc. continue. We eat seal, whale, birds, eggs, etc. Our diet is changing and the children are used to store bought food such as pizza, hamburgers, and sweet drinks. We are becoming like mainstream America: we live with pop music, in a technological world.
The elders are struggling with technology and more comfortable with traditional lifestyles. Diabetes and obesity are big results of these changes. We need to be more physically active with hunting activities but now with daytime jobs, dietary and other lifestyle changes the native communities are in bad health.
One bad habit is smoking and many people are dying from cancer. This is still a big trend now, more and more people are quitting but a majority of the native population smokes and passes this on generation to generation.
Sarah Palin created a Climate Change Sub-Cabinet, and you are on the Alaska Climate Impact Assessment Commission that issued a recent report with recommendations to the state of Alaska on addressing climate change. Please tell me about this process. What were the challenges and successes?
Mr. Pungowiyi: There were members on the commission that do not believe in climate change and did not believe that it was going to be devastating to Alaska. They heard testimony of the negative effects of climate change but the report was quite watered down to incorporate the opinions of those who do not believe in climate change.
With regard to the formation of state, national and international policy on climate change, anything that changes will take a long time. Policy will encourage the use of alternative energy to reduce oil-based energy and promote wind generation. However, we need immediate results in Alaska.
Can you talk about the cities on the edge of melting permafrost?
Mr. Pungowiyi: The military has stepped in to help move the community of Newtok.
Shishmaref and Kivalina are also very much in danger but I doubt that there will be efforts from the Federal government to help them, other than trying to protect them from encroachment of the ocean. In my opinion they will not relocate them.
My main concern is for the people who are really dependent on marine resources. They are the ones who will have a serious issue with food security. They will not be able to access food; the hardship for them will be much greater than any other communities in Alaska. Currently there are no means to address food security, other than what was mentioned earlier about switching to American food.
For more information on Alaskan native peoples and arctic warming, see www.arcticwarming.net.